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the emotional pain of human experience. But he never did? No. he didn't. Did you? No, but what I felt in my body, I also felt in my mind. You have told me of experience, and no doubt you have many more stories to relate. But each story is only an extention of the other. Each story is within the same cycle. It seems that it is your direction to continue relating to the cycles, and although it is your desire to increase the dimensions of your experiences, it seems that the force is compelling you to keep them within the circle. You know, of course, that if you do not go beyond experience as being your framework for knowledge, your spirit will demand the death experience. That is where you are going. Toward the complete human experience. Finality. You talk about the Neilests. Well if your mind and body were together at the same time in the place where only their heads are, you would be dead. Yes, they are talking Neitzhie. But at this point, they have simply not arrived at where Neitzhie was. Their dread is the knowledge that they have of Christ within. They are passive, because they are waiting to go beyond the concept of the martyr. They are not going to die for, or fight against, for that matter, a world they see as being despicable. I have been Christ too. I have gone into the temple, which was the whore house, and driven all the rich merchants and phony college kids out and into the streets so their faces could be seen in the red and blue of an electric night. I have risked my life for the whores, and fought the pimp in the alley with the knowledge of his secret gun. But what difference does it make Michael? You are only fighting for yourself.